https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_evolution Acceptance Main article: Acceptance of evolution by religious groups According to Eugenie Scott: "In one form or another, Theistic Evolutionism is the view of creation taught at the majority of mainline Protestant seminaries, and it is the official position of the Catholic church."[11] Studies show that acceptance of evolution is lower in the United States than in Europe or Japan; among 34 countries sampled, only Turkey had a lower rate of acceptance than the United States.[36]
Theistic evolutionism has been described as arguing for compatibility between science and religion, and as such it is viewed with disdain both by some atheists and many creationists.[37] 0836名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 18:36:17.38ID:JmAi+xGy0>>832 教義として進化論を採用しているソースを出せよ。 信者個人の意見はどっでもいい。 0837名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 18:36:37.73ID:wIa8XgU30 アスペルガー症候群 0838名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 18:38:59.46ID:ikWvKIa/0 前にも何人かいただろ 0839名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 18:39:48.09ID:TkvtrHpx0>>822 長崎出身だから織田信長の時代から先祖代々由緒正しきクリスチャンホームだと思う。
According to Eugenie Scott: "In one form or another, Theistic Evolutionism is the view of creation taught at the majority of mainline Protestant seminaries, and it is the official position of the Catholic church."[11] 0849名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 18:54:25.64ID:dn5aXBIm0>>834 たしかに修行者は物質的に見ると非生産的な生活をしていますが、 在家信者は仏僧に喜捨でき、それを喜びにしているのですから、 外部の私たちがどうこう言えるものではないと思います 0850名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 18:55:44.27ID:8sb0rVyx0 こういう人たちって、やっぱり全員道程なの?でも処女と違って証明できないよね 0851名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 18:55:55.95ID:pOwYK+iN0>>843
Theistic Evolution Theistic evolution is a theological view in which God creates through the laws of nature. Theistic evolutionists (TEs) accept all the results of modern science, in anthropology and biology as well as in astronomy, physics, and geology. In particular, it is acceptable to TEs that one species give rise to another; they accept descent with modification. However, TEs vary in whether and how much God is allowed to intervene — some believe that God created the laws of nature and allows events to occur with no further intervention. Other TEs believe that God intervenes at critical intervals during the history of life (especially in the origin of humans). A 2003 book presents an entire continuum of TEs; clearly, there is much variation among Christians regarding this theological view (Peters and Hewlett 2003). In one form or another, TE is the view of creation taught at the majority of mainline Protestant seminaries, and it is the position of the Catholic Church. In 1996, Pope John Paul II (1996) reiterated the Catholic version of theistic evolution, in which God created, evolution happened, humans may indeed be descended from more primitive forms, but the hand of God was required for the production of the human soul. The current pope, Benedict XVI, has reiterated the evolution-friendly Catholic view, stressing the importance of rejecting philosophical naturalism (Lawton, 2007).
Pope John Paul II, on the 23rd of October, 1996, while speaking to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences plenary session at the Vatican, declared the evolutionary theories of Charles Darwin to be fact, tacitly acknowledging that man evolved from the apes, and reducing the biblical account of Genesis to that of mere fable! 0855名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 19:08:11.91ID:pOwYK+iN0http://biblelight.net/darwin.htm
In the 6th paragraph of the above Vatican press release, an encyclical from Pope Pius XII, HUMANI GENERIS, is summarized and appealed to for support by John Paul II -
"Humani Generis'," he stated, "considered the doctrine of 'evolutionism' as a serious hypothesis, worthy of a more deeply studied investigation and reflection on a par with the opposite hypothesis." (He is commenting on paragraph 36 of the encyclical)
In this summary of Humani Generis, John Paul II has just reduced the biblical six day creation (the opposite hypothesis) to mere theory, and elevated evolutionary science to be on a par with it as an equal possibility to be considered! And that is indeed a correct assessment of what Pius XII said in his encyclical.
Continuing, in the 8th paragraph of the Vatican press release, John Paul II now quotes the encyclical HUMANI GENERIS (see paragraph 36) -
"if the origin of the human body is sought in living matter which existed before it, the spiritual soul is directly created by God."
So, as Pius XII explains it, if man did evolve, the same is not true of the soul. That, he claims, God created directly and put into man. Man himself though, is presumed to have evolved from "pre-existing living matter", rather than being created by God in one day from the dust of the earth. What Pius XII meant by that is that man evolved from the apes in accord with Darwinian theory! 0856名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 19:10:01.81ID:pOwYK+iN0https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/uvctt/til_in_1996_pope_john_paul_declared_that_the/
sweatangerandshame I went to Catholic school for 13 years and was always taught evolution through out. And to be honest when I got to high school, which was a catholic school, evolution was taught as fact and religion was a whole seperate class. Like a philosophy class and the bible was looked at in contextual and sociological terms. I know not all catholics were given this luxury, but I can honestly say I was never taught anything against the scientific method or evolution. Obviously, since it was a catholic school there was always a sense that god was behind it all.
carpetano Same here. Although I'm atheist now, I studied in an Spanish Catholic school. I was taught that the Genesis is metaphorical and when the Bible says "the next day" it means "several million years later". Of course this was in the Religion class. The Bible wasn't mentioned in the rest of classes.
sempersexi Catholic here who also went to Catholic school, I just wanted to affirm this. I have never been presented with any claim that evolution is not real. Of course, this probably correlates to "my neck of the woods." In fact, my graduating class scored within the top 10% of the nation for science and mathematics on standardized tests.
I would also like to affirm that theology was taught more like a philosophy class, separate from the other realms of academia.
TheMostIntrestingAzn It is sort of ironic that the once progressive protestant movement has become the very demon it had set out to eradicate.
HarukoBass I went to 3 different Catholic schools, it was taught that way in each one, we were taught that the bible is mostly poetic licence.
That hasn't stopped the anti-theist 'liberal' redditors flipping their shit at me saying my school experience doesn't reflect most Catholic schools, because of Dawkin's tirade against Catholic schools and that fabricated bullshit he spewed on his C4 'documentary'. Some American told me that all Catholic schools teach creationism, and despite never visiting the UK he knew this to be fact. I hate this place and it's misguided Catholic hate. 0857名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 19:12:01.85ID:mYXYbMSg0>>820 実際それだよね。楔形文字の解読で、創世記は、恐らくバビロン捕囚の間に、 拉致先の地元の多神教メソポタミア神話をパクってきたものであることが、ほぼ明らかになってる。 原典では、土曜日は安息日ではなく神々の結婚パーティーだった。 一神教ではもちろん結婚相手の神はいないから、土曜日に書くことがなく、しかたなくヤーウェはお休みすることになった。 0858名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 19:14:24.36ID:I84XZyxn0>>829 カトリックは神としてマリア様を崇めていないぞ プロテスタントは何百年もそれを理解しようとしないが 0859名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 19:17:17.00ID:Ig3SYRJw0>>841 信者個人の意見はどこまでいっても個人の意見 教義はまた別物 中絶だってカトリック信者の多くは容認しているだろうがバチカンは禁止している 信者が教義を厳格に遵守していようが違反していようが カトリックの教義は中絶禁止だし 0860名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 19:22:49.15ID:I84XZyxn0>>309 格差や無学はカトリックから来るんじゃなくてその国の経済や政策からでしょう むしろカトリックはそういう貧困者や子供に無償で養うための施設や学校を作っていた 産業革命時は格差を無くすために国や資本家達を批判したり掛け合ったりした 0861名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 19:22:57.55ID:JmAi+xGy0>>858 >神としてマリア様を崇めていないぞ 神でないものを崇めることは固く禁止されているが、教会には聖母像が沢山ある。 聖母が信仰対象ではないというのは無理がある。 カトリックとプロテスタントの対立の時にも、プロテスタントは聖母を信仰できないことが、 プロテスタントに転向できない大きな理由だったからな。 0862名無しさん@1周年2018/05/21(月) 19:23:21.03ID:pOwYK+iN0>>859
言っていることや文体が同じで、また違う ID か 確証はないから別人として対応することに何ら問題はないのだが
Pope John Paul II, on the 23rd of October, 1996, while speaking to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences plenary session at the Vatican, declared the evolutionary theories of Charles Darwin to be fact, tacitly acknowledging that man evolved from the apes, and reducing the biblical account of Genesis to that of mere fable!